There is nothing so powerful as one’s imagination. We’re readers, we know that. We get it. And yet, sometimes imagination can be offset or complemented by something else. This is, after all, the age of multimedia.
With greed-fueled war on the horizon, and with Smaug, Chiefest and Greatest of Calamities and arguably literature’s most famous dragon, once again on the rampage in the first trailer for The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies, it’s time to talk about The Hobbits—their juxtaposed film and literary incarnations alike, and why together J.R.R. Tolkien’s and Peter Jackson’s respective legacies are like chocolate and peanut butter combined.
You could consider me a Jackson apologist of sorts. I will always love the books first, if it must be said, and I can nitpick with the rest of you about the changes large and small that the upstart Kiwi filmmaker exacted in his Hobbit prequel trilogy, just as I could for the full Rings trilogy. But I’d also like to make a case for him in light of the many and scathing criticisms I’ve heard about the newer films.
Now I, too, was wistful when I heard that Guillermo del Toro wasn’t going to direct as originally intended. But unlike many, I was actually quite thrilled when I heard The Hobbit would be three films, not two, and not just because I want maximum cinematic indulgence in Middle-earth (though that is true, too). I thoroughly enjoyed An Expected Journey even though it wasn’t as satisfying as The Lord of the Rings. I, too, cringed at some of the over-the-top moments in The Desolation of Smaug (I’m looking at you, “Barrels Out of Bond”). I will likely do so again in The Battle of Five Armies, but holy fell-cows am I still excited for it! In the end I think the world is better for Jackson’s meddling.
Like many hardcore readers (and writers) of fantasy, I grew up with a substantial amount of Middle-earth bric-a-brac in my headspace. From various places, too: The Disney and Rankin/Bass cartoons, the unfinished Bakshi tale, and finally the books themselves. The sheer popularity of J.R.R. Tolkien’s work, its unparalleled staying power, and its straight-up linguistic beauty compels me to say that The Lord of the Rings is the finest slice of fantasy literature ever bound. There, I said it. If one could ever objectively say that something else has surpassed it, it would be nigh impossible to convince me because you can’t really compete with nostalgia. Mine or anyone’s. And it’s downright difficult to compete with the writing itself anyway.
If the Tolkien Estate one day stumbled onto an old trunk with an envelope in it upon which old J.R.R. had scribbled “a couple more songs I meant to add to the ‘Tom Bombadil’ chapter” and then decided to insert said lyrics into the trilogy after the fact, I’d be into that. Tolkien’s ghost could show up and add whole pages of additional travel description of Frodo’s and Sam’s journey through the Dead Marshes or the Three Hunters’ trek across Rohan—you know, all those walky bits that impatient modern readers like to groan about—and I’d eat it up. His narrative is that good.
But here’s the thing: I love the books twice as much now because Peter Jackson’s films happened. Seeing another’s thorough vision—and let’s be clear, it’s not Jackson’s alone, there were thousands of people involved in the making—makes me appreciate the depths of old John Ronald Reuel’s work. When you discover someone likes the same thing you like, it’s exciting, isn’t it? This is like that, but tenfold.
So why is this a big deal? Because what if it didn’t happen? The books would endure quite well, of course, but far fewer people would know about them. Likewise, many of the nuances in Tolkien’s epic would remain just that—discussed, maybe, in some classrooms, book clubs, or scattered conversations. But now? Millions more who would never have encountered the books will benefit from that Oxford don’s sagacious words. Or better still, seek its source! One specific line often comes to mind. In Chapter 2 of The Fellowship of the Ring, after Gandalf relates the story of the One Ring to Frodo, he says, “All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
It’s a single statement, a diamond in a rough of diamonds, but I’ve overlooked it before. In the film version, Gandalf rephrases the same line specifically for Frodo in the dark halls of Moria, and it is echoed again later in the final scene. The significance of one’s own choice is woven into the movie’s central theme in a way that makes the wisdom resonate all the clearer. And so the line—universal truth that it is—has become more memorable. Plucked from the book like a pull quote and given greater emphasis in a shorter medium.
Have you ever heard someone read aloud a story you already knew and had it come alive? Someone else’s accent or inflections, or the simple emphasis they place on already familiar words changes it, makes it more than it was. Because here is another person with a different point of view appreciating it in their own way. Sometimes things change in the telling.
Take the famous Venus de Milo sculpture. Admired for her beauty—and the mystery of her missing arms—she’s already a beloved icon of ancient Greece. Now suppose someone finally unearths her limbs, partially intact, along with clues as to how she’d lost them. With this new evidence, there’s talk of a theft, a betrayal, a voyage, and a storm. Intriguing! The Venus de Milo just got more interesting! Now she can be considered in a new light. Or not; that’s up to the beholder. Art enthusiasts can keep on admiring her just as she was in all her elegance and ancient allure, while fans of mystery chase the clues and form little clubs to talk about it. And some of the latter go on to become legitimate art enthusiasts who enjoy both the original and the “retelling.” Win-win!
Yes, I just compared Tolkien’s and Jackson’s works to a dismembered, half-naked statue. A little weird, but here we are.
When the first Fellowship of the Ring teaser aired almost a year before the movie itself, I pulled an unplanned all-nighter. After watching it repeatedly, I could do nothing but privately geek out and lie awake, thinking about this literary epic I loved so much and wondering how on earth it could all be contained in even three movies (even all the extended versions linked together make for a seriously abridged version of the story).
Peter Jackson’s films have been ingrained in pop culture long enough now that we can easily take them—and all they’ve paved the way for—for granted. No way would HBO have been able to offer its enduring and bloody vision of Westeros without Jackson’s bold move. His success made the otherwise niche film genre of fantasy perceived as financially viable. Before Jackson, there were some excellent fantasy films—The Neverending Story, Willow, Ladyhawke, Labyrinth, The Princess Bride—but none quite hit the mainstream nor loosened the purse strings of movie studios like his.
Except for the angriest of Tolkien purists, I don’t think too many people would disagree that Jackson’s first trilogy was largely excellent. Not as many, however, are won over by The Hobbit prequels. Though still profitable for their makers, these movies haven’t had as staggering a box office impact as their Rings counterparts. And I am quick to admit, while much of the charm has returned to the cinematic Middle-earth and the casting is solid, they’re also not as meritorious. Where the changes Jackson made to Rings have elicited plenty of reader complaints, his Hobbit changes are far more extraneous. At times, they feel more like fan fiction than mere fleshing out.
And yet I can understand why such changes are made, in ways that book fans don’t wish to acknowledge. In his excellent talk “Tolkien Book to Jackson Script,” Tom Shippey, Tolkien scholar and literary consultant to Peter Jackson, tells us that the target audience for The Lord of the Rings was teenagers. Had been from the start. Hence Legolas skating on a shield down a flight of steps at Helm’s Deep. It’s one of those moments when adults shake their heads or roll their eyes but it’s also one of those moments which allowed the movies to happen in the first place. Is compromise a realistic part of life? Yes. Could New Line Cinema produce fantasy films at no cost? No. Tolkien wrote his books for fun with no promise of great wealth, but for Jackson and a host of film industry folks it was a job—albeit a labor of love—with money backing it and exceedingly high expectations all around.
I could happily discuss the pros and cons of each and every change made from book to film, especially in An Unexpected Journey and The Desolation of Smaug since they’re more recent. But there are really two points I wish to make.
First, about that target audience, it’s more inclusive than people think. One of the outcries among film naysayers concerns its violence, action, and sheer ferocity against the assumption that Tolkien originally intended The Hobbit as a simple children’s book. Aren’t the films betraying the simplicity and fairy tale nature of the story as written? Well, maybe, but deliberately. The fantasy world itself as viewed peripherally in The Hobbit is a nascent Middle-earth, not fully formed by a long shot because Tolkien himself hadn’t yet envisioned the larger setting. Not until he was asked by his publisher—much to his surprise—to come up with more stories about hobbits. When he finally got around to it, Middle-earth was becoming a different and many-layered place.
We can agree that The Lord of the Rings most certainly wasn’t for children. It was a more expansive, mature, and logical realm that Tolkien developed to house both his bucolic hobbits and evil immortal spirits bent on enslaving the world. When Tolkien name-dropped the Necromancer in The Hobbit, he did not then know of Sauron. When he wrote of the fallen Maia named Sauron years later, he most certainly assigned the Necromancer to him. The Mirkwood “attercops” were just giant spiders, but when Shelob was invented, it is suggested they were of her brood. The Lord of the Rings looks back, but The Hobbit does not look forward.
Jackson’s films look both ways for greater continuity. His first trilogy was the financially successful model the Hobbit prequels would follow; it only makes sense that they would cater to Rings moviegoers (teenagers + everyone else who happened to enjoy them), not newcomers to The Hobbit. It shows in the many—and I would suggest too many and too obvious—parallels that the films make. Gandalf’s incarceration in Dol Goldur, the summoning of Eagles via moth, the return of the Nazgûl, and so on.
Then there’s the fact that Tolkien himself didn’t truly consider The Hobbit a children’s book or least regretted the association, even the “talking down to children” style of his own narration in the early chapters of the book. That narrative evolves so that by “The Clouds Burst” (the chapter with the Battle of the Five Armies), it’s a different sort of voice altogether with a more serious tone. Referring to his own kids, Tolkien wrote:
Anything that was in any way marked out in The Hobbit as for children, instead of just for people, they disliked—instinctively. I did, too, now that I think about it.
Although kids love it and many of us count it among our childhood favorites, The Hobbit was never especially kid-friendly straight through. Literary critic and poet Seth Abramson explained one such point quite well in an interview for The Philadelphia Review of Books:
Imagine a child, or even a pre-teen, in the 1930s or any decade, being confronted with (and confounded by) the following words or coinages (among others) in just the first chapter of a so-called “children’s book”: depredations, flummoxed, larder, porter, abreast, fender (the indoors kind), hearth, laburnums, tassel, confusticate, bebother, viol, audacious, conspirator, estimable, remuneration, obstinately, reverence, discretion, “market value.” (Not to mention words far more familiar to children now than would have been the case in the 1930s, given our national obsession with the Tolkienesque: for instance, runes, parchment, wards, expeditions, sorcery, and many others.)
The second point I wish to make is about what Jackson’s newest trilogy is actually portraying versus what people assume it is portraying by its title.
Here is the crux: Jackson’s three Hobbit films are not merely an overblown adaptation of the singular book. Rather, they are an adaptation of seminal events that transpired in Middle-earth prior to the War of the Ring, and these events do notably contain the full adventures of Bilbo Baggins as depicted in The Hobbit. Yes, it is misleading that they’re using that title—money, branding, and name recognition at work—but the movies represent a great deal more. We know from various appendices that other events were transpiring but were not explored in Tolkien’s original book, were not part of Bilbo’s experience. Because, again, Tolkien hadn’t gone that far at the time. It was only retroactively that he connected the dots while writing The Lord of the Rings.
In the book, the dwarves are captured by “the Elvenking.” Only in the Rings trilogy does Tolkien name him Thranduil and establish Legolas as his messenger and son. I hope book purists wouldn’t rather he have stayed “the Elvenking” and named no others among the Wood-elves. I find both Legolas and Tauriel to be acceptable additions to the story, though the prominence of their roles is debatable. And as for Tauriel herself, as most know, no such character existed in the books. But female Elves exist, it’s more than all right to show them as more than blurry extras in the background. Now, suggesting a brief, ill-fated romantic connection between an Elf and a dwarf….yes, that’s a little bit of Jackson fanfic added for specific storytelling reasons that many of us shrug at. I’m guessing it’s in part to heighten Legolas’s grudge against dwarves. Unnecessary, but whatever.
Several other elements in the films did feel stretched or fabricated at first, but were in fact referenced in the books and, I think, were rightly expanded. One such connector to The Lord of the Rings is the idea that Sauron would have utilized Smaug “to terrible effect” in the War of the Ring had Gandalf not helped orchestrate the dragon’s downfall. This is straight out of the “Durin’s Folk” section of Appendix A in The Lord of the Rings. Meanwhile, from Appendix B we know that shortly after Gollum was released from Mordor, Sauron’s forces attack Thranduil’s realm and that the invasion was long and hard-won. How differently might have the Wood-elves faired if Sauron had a dragon at his disposal?
Likewise, when Gandalf parted company with Bilbo and the dwarves in The Hobbit, he went to “a great council of the white wizards” (later identified as the White Council) and that they “had at last driven the Necromancer from his dark hold in the south of Mirkwood” (i.e. Dol Goldur). Of course, in the book, Gandalf had known for years that the Necromancer was the very enemy he was sent to Middle-earth specifically to oppose. Jackson altered the timeline and made this revelation part of The Desolation of Smaug’s narrative—a stronger plot point for non-reading moviegoers, perhaps, but iffy for us book fans who wish he didn’t meddle this much. Then there’s Radagast, who was considered part of the White Council in Tolkien’s story later, was in fact mentioned in The Hobbit both as a wizard and “cousin” of Gandalf’s.
Finally, the orc Bolg is referenced five times in The Hobbit, and he is the only named villain in the Battle of the Five Armies, so I find it proper that he is given greater screen time in the films. Strangely, we meet him only after we meet his father, Azog the Defiler, who in the books was slain long before. While Bolg and Azog did not track Thorin as they do in the films, there is an implied grudge between the orcs of Moria and Thorin’s people to make the conflict more personal.
Lest anyone think that I fully embrace the Hobbit films just as they are, I will say that my chief complaint is the constant upstaging of Bilbo. Martin Freeman as the “burglar” Baggins is absolutely perfect, but some of his potential has been overshadowed. Bilbo’s moments of heroism are too few and far between in this retelling, in both Mirkwood and the Lonely Mountain. I always felt that even though Jackson’s version of the Rings trilogy was truncated (understandably) and sometimes sadly reworked (Faramir especially), he absolutely captured the spirit of Tolkien’s work. Yet I feel that in showing off with his CGI sequences and the increased prowess of secondary characters, he’s demoted Bilbo to a tag-along, sometimes hero instead of the repeated savior of Thorin’s quest and by extension, the fate of Middle-earth.
On the flipside, the dwarves in Tolkien’s book are given very little personality beyond the color of their hoods and the state of their beards. Thorin is characterized the most, and we get some vague impressions of a few others like Balin (he’s the eldest and most reliable) and Bombur (he’s fat). Beyond that, sadly, even Walt Disney’s dwarfs have more distinction. But An Unexpected Journey alone seemed to introduce me for the first time to the characters of Bofur (he’s the blue-collar everydwarf you could have a malt beer with) and Dori (he’s refined, polite, and likes chamomile). And holy Durin’s Day, Jackson’s version of Balin is the best!
This first look at The Battle of the Five Armies is gripping. Perhaps Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Philippa Boyens will make up for some of the rushing-through-the-good-parts (alas, Mirkwood and the spiders should have been a longer and more terrifying ordeal), their plot-stretching (Tauriel and Kili), and history-rearranging (so did Gandalf not acquire the map and key to the Lonely Mountain in the dungeons of Dol Guldur from Thorin’s dying, deranged father?). I have been promised some goblin-hewing action at the claws of Beorn-in-bear-form. And I’m particularly keen on seeing the White Council push out from their chairs, smooth out their robes, and forcibly evict Dol Guldur’s worst squatter ever. Galadriel, in battle? Yes, please.
Will it be like The Hobbit as I envisioned it when I read it the first few times? I daresay it better not, nor anyone else’s. Nostalgia is powerful but I want to see other visions of this beloved classic. Peter Jackson may not be the final word on Tolkien, but he needs to finish what he started, to bring us “there and back again.” Let’s let him with open minds.
Lucky me, I’m still holding onto a bit of that wonder from that surreal first Fellowship trailer of long ago. I still sometimes marvel: OMG, do millions of people who barely knew the books existed actually know who Legolas is now? Or Samwise. Or Saruman-the-freaking-White?! Is Sauron really a household name now? Yes, he is! I’m still reeling, because I remember a time when only fantasy readers or the fantasy-curious even knew the name Gandalf.
And now, because of Jackson’s films, more people have turned to the literature, grasped the enormity of what Tolkien had created, and then, like the dwarves of Moria, delved deeper. Newborn Tolkien fans can discover just what it means to be one of the Istari, know who Eru Ilúvatar is, and respect the Maiar.
That’s right! With Tolkien’s story flowing fully into the mainstream, I can create something like this and more and more people will get it.
Thanks, Peter! (And the zillion other folks who brought it to greater life.)
Jeff LaSala gave his firstborn a Quenya middle name and isn’t sorry about it. He wrote the Silmarillion Primer, has too many Lord of the Rings toys, regularly plays Dungeons & Dragons, and frankly, refuses to grow up. He wrote a couple of SFF novels.
Just for the record there are quite a few people who loathe the taste and texture of chocolate and peanut butter fusions.
Just sayin’.
Hahaha! Touché, Zorra. This was the opinion of but one Man.
And we know what [Jackson’s] Elrond thinks of Men.
Beautiful essay. This echoes my feelings on the dynamics between Tolkien’s work(also my favorite literary work of all time) and Jackson’s cinematic imaginings quite well. I never was quite able to put my thoughts into words, but you’ve done it here.
First off I must say, because this needs to come off my chest before any discussion, that I came out of my first viewing of desolation with heartfelt disappointment. This was largely due to the decision to make Smaug not so much a chief calamity as a very big cat.
I have hopes, however foolish, that they must give him a better outing in Battle, otherwise how is he scary?
All that being said, I felt much the same after Towers, and now I love all the Rings-movies despite some glaring faults.
I agree completely with this essay in everything but the details on which parts of the movies that were bad. But, in the words of the great master, I suppose the only criticism we can all agree on is this: they were too short.
A balanced and thoughtful discussion. Well written and enjoyable. Thank you!
It’s the exact opposite of the “Game of Thrones” books and films. I love both but in the Films D&D seem to trim a lot from Martin’s prose usually for the better. In Tolkein’s case especially for the ‘Hobbit’, Jackson has added a lot from Middle Earth Lore bringing the Big picture into view while the book just looks at what Bilbo saw. Now in the earlier films, Jackson cut out things jst like D&D in GOT but I can live without Tom Bombadil and the scouring of the Shire.
I can love both the books and the films. Both exist on a different shelf in my heart and my mind.
I found the Mirkwood sequence wanting. It could have been so much more and better than that insufferable barrel Disney amusement ride.
The ONLY way Peter Jackson can redeem himself in my eyes, with the third Hobbit movie, is if the White Council versus Sauron scenes take up a majority of the movie’s running time and if they aren’t inter-cut with the parts of the story I despise: anything associated with Laketown, Tauriel and the ridiculous, moronic dwarves.
On the first note I think you’re overstating your case a bit. Tolkien is expressing dissatisfaction with some of the form of “children’s novels.” He was never entirely comfortable with the (common) practice of the narrator breaking the fourth wall to speak directly to the audience, for example, but he does it in The Hobbit because it was a common practice in children’s novels. I think his real concern is pretty normal in say, the YA/children’s industry, right? Lots of authors would prefer that even if they are writing for a young audience, that their work would be enjoyable for anyone.
I don’t think there’s any doubt that the story IS written for children however, or that this was his intent. The structure and form of the book are definitely for children. Tolkien was not shy about rewriting his own material (he rewrote and re-published The Hobbit to bring it into line with The Lord of the Rings), so if he really did not intend for it to be a children’s book, if it was supposed to just be a prequel to LOTR, I tend to think he would have re-written it.
I don’t think that was intent. I think that stuff in the LOTR appendices was stuffed in the appendices for a reason–it was interesting information, but it did not improve upon The Hobbit as a story–the novel stands complete as it is.
For the second point well, I’m not a purity zealot. I think Tauriel is cool. It makes sense that the movie would give individual dwarves some personality rather than just have them stand around. I’m more concerned about differences of tone and theme than about details. No denying that Jackson does amazing work at making majestic and stirring battles. But those were never really the point of Tolkien’s works. Jackson is entitled to his interpretations, but it seems like they do a small violence to the source.
Preach it, and TESTIFY.
I’ve said so on Facebook and I’ll say it here, too:
I’ve given this new trilogy of movies overall a B–because living up to the magnificence of the LoTR movies is a really, REALLY hard bar to clear, even for Jackson himself.
But that said? Jackson’s B efforts are for my money still pretty damned good, and he’s still close enough to the spirit of the Middle-Earth in My Head that I remain delightfully entertained by everything this new set of films is offering me so far. I’m a massive Tolkien nerd, sure–and intellectually, I’m very aware of the various reasons people who aren’t me aren’t enjoying these films as much and I respect those positions.
For me though my sense of wonder is still happily nourished. I’m another who will greedily, delightedly accept every additional moment in Middle-Earth I can get. ^_^
Sotgnomen, agreed, they are all too short.
SkylarkThibedeau, yeah. I enjoyed “Fog on the Barrow-downs” and “Tom Bombadil” (but even that was dropped into the story by Tolkien merely to give the hobbits some mini-adventure on the way to Rivendell; of all chapters, that’s the least impacting to omit) as well as “The Scouring of the Shire” (and wasn’t crazy about Saruman’s end in the films), but I can readily understand why those got the axe.
Quinne, yes, I wanted way more out of Mirkwood than we got. I expect the extended Desolation will provide some of what’s missing, but probably not nearly enough. Thing is, to expect the movies to cater to your personal taste isn’t fair. The book spends plenty of time in Lake Town, even with the politics and the Master of Lake-Town, and no time at all to the White Council’s efforts. I’m eager to see the White Council’s actions, too, but from a narrative point of view, seeing Middle-earth’s most epic champions battle Middle-earth’s most powerful villain (at the time) could really diminish the scope and importance of the Battle of the Five Armies. But going back and forth between the two is no doubt what Jackson will do, and I’m confident it’ll be handled well.
This talk of Jackson “redeeming” himself confuses me, though. Compensate us for his less favorable depictions, sure. Redemption? What’s to redeem? He isn’t changing anything in the book, merely changing how things play out on the screen.
Personally, I’m missing the role of the thrush and Bard being of the race of Dale. Since the Eagles didn’t talk, either, I’m guessing it just won’t go there.
Colin R, the structure and form in The Hobbit begins as if for children. You’re right, he regretted his mixed messages. “I had not freed myself from the contemporary delusions about fairy-stories and children,” he later wrote. But the tone shifts as the story delves into politics and war. The book is kind of a hybrid as it slowly morphs into something closer to The Lord of the Rings by its end.
Well, since every one’s echoing this article positively I guess it’s up to me to be the nay-sayer. To be clear, I do agree with the author that these movies will help attract more readers to the book (which is great) and I find both the LOTR and the Hobbit films to be entertaining and will purchase the Hobbit films. I also agree that adding more to the dwarves’ personalities was a great idea. I also appreciate that Bard is more developed.
But I’m still very sad about a lot of the flaws in these films, especially the Hobbit ones. I am upset that Jackson dragged out The Hobbit into 3 films. 2 tight 2-hour films would be good. 3 LOTR-length movies lead to a lot of cliche bloat. I hear people say, “I’m glad to have more time to spend in Middle-Earth.” If all time is good-quality I’ll agree. But a lot of that time spent in Jackson’s Hobbit movies are stupid, cliche, or boring.
I remember being excited that they were going to explore more of the appendice materials with the Necromancer and White Council. Then I saw the first Hobbit film and realized…nearly every of those scenes dragged. The only stuff I really loved were those that center on Bilbo himself (wonderfully played by Martin Freeman), like in the book. Every time the film moved away from him I got bored. Almost all of Jackson’s new scenes felt like cliches and retreads of what he already did in LOTR (btw, I am so DONE with the elves; their intense stares, their oh-so-gracefulness and oh-so-seriousness; in Jackson’s films they’ve become joyless parodies of themselves).
And then I see Hobbit #2 and realize, “Wait a minute? There’s not a lot of the titular hobbit in this film. This movie should be called ‘Thorin’s Quest” or something, but not ‘The Hobbit'”.
I feel that with each Middle Earth film he puts out, Jackson has drained more and more of the subtly and maturityout of Tolkien’s story. Fellowship was fantastic, Two Towers was pretty dang good as well, and Return of the King was good but with some big flaws.
And now with Hobbit films, Tolkien’s stories have just become dumb-fun action films. I still find it entertaining in the way I find Pacific Rim entertaining. But the difference is Pacific Rim was always supposed to be a big dumb-fun action film. The source material for the Hobbit films, while originally writtem for children, was so much more than dumb action and pretty cgi scenery.
I generally enjoyed the extended editions of the LOTR films. But I actually want a streamlined, abridged version of the Hobbit films.
Like I said, still good films, and I’m glad they’ve expanded the fantasy genre’s audience. But I’ll still be sad over what might have been.
I agree with Jeff’s premise 100 percent. Tolkein and Jackson are telling the tale in different media, and I have no problem with each of them fitting the tale to their respective media, and no problem with Jackson shaping the films into his own vision of the story.
Films and books should not be identical twins. The enjoyment for a book reader viewing the films comes from the fresh view of the material.
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When you think about it, what could be more terrifying than a reaaly big bad cat?
Their cold logic and egoistical way of destroying everything in their path without a second thought ist quite horrid!
Smaug was purrfect.
I’m what you’d call a Tolkien purist, and still I enjoyed the original movie trilogy quite a lot (though RotK has enormous pacing problems towards the end).
The Hobbit, though? Not really. It’s not so much the changes and the cuts. It’s not even that PJ and Tolkien (and me) have very different definitions of funny(see: Legolas jumping on dwarf heads on a barrel vs. the arrival at Beorn’s).
It’s that, as a story, it’s BORING. Nothing happens for half hours at a time. Blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moments in the book stretch forever on film. Digressions take the biggest part of screen time. Everything is stretched way too thin.
When we went to see Desolation on the big screen, my whole party couldn’t wait for it to end, and half of it was people who preferred the LotR movies to the books.
Now, I won’t deny that there are moments of brilliance. The visuals are stunning. Martin Freeman is a fantastic Bilbo and, of course, he plays stupendously well against Cumberbatch. And Evangeline Lily is actually able to make you feel for the crappy character she’s been given.
But I can’t shake the feeling that these two 3-hour movies could have been condensed into a single, better 2-hour one.
@11, @14, yes and yes. I loved the LOTR trilogy of films, but he’s been moving further away with what makes the films work with each one he does. I don’t care about Jackson’s additions to the film. I don’t mind differences. What I care about is that he so bloats out every sequence that they’re unbearably boring. All terror and joy and heroism and emotion was just leached from the second film in favor of stunts and scenes that just didn’t add what they did in the book. I love this story, and yet I couldn’t wait for the Desolation to end. Jackson and Co have become like Stephen King, in sore need of an editor.
I can agree with a lot of this. Each movie is further away from where it all started. It still has the look, but not always the feel. That said, I never found the movies boring, not for a second. Did I feel—often—that most of the scenes could be done better? Definitely.
I have to admit that what Peter Jackson did to Faramir poisoned the whole series for me. I have never been able to go back and watch the trilogy again. I even went out and bought the extended edition and every time I think about watching them I get sick to my stomach.
I saw the first hobbit movie in the theatre and it was execrable. This travesty should be burned to the ground and the ground salted. I wish we could even erase his LotR trilogy.
Luckily I have the books to comfort me.
Peter Jackson’s portrayals of middle earth are lovely, but like the Star Wars prequels, more enjoyable if you don’t think about them too much, a second or third viewing is much more fun, becase at first the film would just have too many WITWWWOS? moments. As long as the studio doesn’t commit an anathema like a novelization based on the script to compete with the original book, I’m good.
Ugh. Sorry, re: LotR, so many, many egregious changes. I understand the need to cut things, but adding entire storylines that didn’t exist in the books is wrong. What Jackson did to Faramir is beyond the pale! And as for the Hobbit films, suffice to say that Jackson has fallen into the Spielberg/Lucas trap of mistaking a movie for an amusement park ride. The crap with the goblins??
I agree with most of Jeff’s points, and where I do[n’t] disagree, it may be a matter of framing.
One thing to note: my understanding of the contract between the Tolkien estate and New Line/MGM/Wingnut is that Jackson and co. are limited to the text of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. This means that they can’t even use material from The Simarillion, Unfinished Tales, and any of the notes and drafts being compiled and published by Christopher Tolkien which are additional information/clarification for LotR and Hobbit. This means that by necessity, Jackson/Walsh/Boyens have to invent their own characters or move existing characters and plots around to fit a cinematic narrative.
As for my disagreement with Jeff, that would be over his perception that Bilbo gets short shrift in character development. I agree with Tolkien “purists” that three movies is too many to tell the story of The Hobbit, but that’s only true if you limit the movie(s) to what Bilbo originally wrote in the The Red Book of Westmarch, which is essentially a transcription of what he told of his adventures (minus the real story of the Ring) to the younger hobbits, i.e. Frodo, Sam, Pip, Merry, Fatty, and their friends. When I saw the first trailers three years ago, it was obvious to me that what we’re seeing is more like what the dwarves tell themselves in Erebore and the Iron Hills, when they celebrate the feats of the great dwarven kings; in other words Epic Dwarves in Action! In this context, I think that Bilbo functions as the Company’s (and really, Thorin’s) conscience, while also getting a chance to grow himself. In the first movie, we have Bilbo’s quick thinking in dealing with the trolls, and his nacent bravery arguably saves Thorin from Azog. Movie two has Bilbo deal with the spiders, breaking them out of Elf jail, and having enough faith in the riddle of the Map to find the keyhole. Movie three will be about the Arkenstone, obviously, though Bilbo ought to be out of it for the main battle. I think all that is enough for Bilbo, who is only “quite a little fellow in a wide world after all!”
Finally, I do get the sense that the movies are longer than necessary. The first movie felt right, but I found myself getting restless in number two before the dwarves got to the Lonely Mountain itself. It feels like the problem is one of pacing/editing and not a dearth or surfeit of plot.
I have to echo the outrage over the treatment of Faramir. I almost walked out of the theater when that happened.
I really did enjoy this essay though – I AM excited that, despite the criticisms I have of the movies and some of the bloat/expansion, it gets people talking about Tolkien and Middle Earth! I actually love the extra stuff from the appendices…it’s more the extra cut from whole cloth digressions I don’t feel really fit in, and then it takes some akward storytelling to get the movie back to where it needs to be going.
I agree with most of Jeff’s points, and where I don’t disagree, it may be a matter of framing.
One thing to note: my understanding of the contract between the Tolkien estate and New Line/MGM/Wingnut is that Jackson and co. are limited to the text of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. This means that they can’t even use material from The Simarillion, Unfinished Tales, and any of the notes and drafts being compiled and published by Christopher Tolkien which are additional information/clarification for LotR and Hobbit. This means that by necessity, Jackson/Walsh/Boyens have to invent their own characters or move existing characters and plots around to fit a cinematic narrative.
As for my disagreement with Jeff, that would be over his perception that Bilbo gets short shrift in character development. I agree with Tolkien “purists” that three movies is too many to tell the story of The Hobbit, but that’s only true if you limit the movie(s) to what Bilbo originally wrote in the The Red Book of Westmarch, which is essentially a transcription of what he told of his adventures (minus the real story of the Ring) to the younger hobbits, i.e. Frodo, Sam, Pip, Merry, Fatty, and their friends. When I saw the first trailers three years ago, it was obvious to me that what we’re seeing is more like what the dwarves tell themselves in Erebore and the Iron Hills, when they celebrate the feats of the great dwarven kings; in other words Epic Dwarves in Action! In this context, I think that Bilbo functions as the Company’s (and really, Thorin’s) conscience, while also getting a chance to grow himself. In the first movie, we have Bilbo’s quick thinking in dealing with the trolls, and his nacent bravery arguably saves Thorin from Azog. Movie two has Bilbo deal with the spiders, breaking them out of Elf jail, and having enough faith in the riddle of the Map to find the keyhole. Movie three will be about the Arkenstone, obviously, though Bilbo ought to be out of it for the main battle.
I think all that is enough for Bilbo, who is only “quite a little fellow in a wide world after all!”
(Apologies for the double post. Was trying to fix a typo.)
The changes to Faramir are certainly a legitimate complaint to me, because I appreciate the contrast between the brothers in the books; it shows how poorly Denethor chose in sending Boromire to Rivendell in lieu of Faramir. In fact, I find the character of Faramir to be representative of why I will always love Tolkien’s style of fantasy as over our modern, “grittier” fantasy stories where true nobility of character is hard to come by. Is the occassional virtuous character so horrible?
Yet I understand (1) that for the movie audience, inventing a character arc for Faramir has a stronger short-term impact, (2) that it better illustrates the evil of the One Ring, and (3) that this change to Faramir doesn’t pollute Tolkien’s books at all. That part I don’t get. Movie Faramir is not book Faramir. Had Peter Jackson made as severe a character change in Frodo, Gandalf, or Aragorn, then yeah, I’d also find it to gravely diminish the entire saga. But Faramir, awesome though he is, is not as central.
I will add, the more I look at the appendices (particularly “Durin’s Folk” in Appendix A), the more okay I am with Jackson’s depiction of Thorin and Company. However Tolkien may have started with his dwarves, the more warrior-like they became by the end of Rings. Even if, again, they really only waged war when it concerned their treasures and their holdings. That’s in keeping with the Silmarillion, I think.
Jeff, I think you buried your lead: “Here is the crux: Jackson’s three Hobbit films are not merely an overblown adaptation of the singular book. Rather, they are an adaptation of seminal events that transpired in Middle-earth prior to the War of the Ring”. Exactly.
Choosing Jackson as the director made that inevitable. And because of that the tone, content and characters are forced into consistency with LOTR. This is not the original Hobbit, this is closer to what Tolkien would have produced if he had gone back to re-write it (as he said he would have liked to). Though obviously not nearly as good.
There are far too many compromises made to pander to the teenage target audience for my liking (since I am decades removed from being a teenager). Tolkien’s subtleties are largely lost, but if it brings him alive for another generation, I can live with that.
My biggest gripe wasn’t actually the poetic movie-making license, so to speak, but something else that really stood out to me… When did orcs (or goblins) move in daylight? I thought the first case of evil moving about in the light of day was Sarumans hybric orcs (Uruk-hai)?
The link to the author’s novels in the thumbnail bio is broken.
29. Linkmeister: Thanks, fixed it. Yeah, it previously linked to the product page on the Wizards of the Coast website, but they’ve since rearranged their site and tons of old URLs are now useless. So I’ve just linked to Amazon. At least it shows some stuff. :)